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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Leaning In Into the Unknown by Fred Mok</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Mok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 17:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kathy, I would be suspicious of any ambitious trailblazer that felt no fear. The fact that you do and are willing to admit it as well as embrace the tensions that accompany what you&#039;re doing speak highly of your character and resolve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, I would be suspicious of any ambitious trailblazer that felt no fear. The fact that you do and are willing to admit it as well as embrace the tensions that accompany what you&#8217;re doing speak highly of your character and resolve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Leaning In Into the Unknown by Gail</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love that you are being brave and doing this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that you are being brave and doing this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Leaning In Into the Unknown by Hillary L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hillary L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So please ask yourself: What would I do if I weren’t afraid? And then go do it.&quot; (p. 26). I love that you are going to D.C. and sitting at the table. 

Growing up, I saw a lot of strong male professionals, including my dad who I love and respect for pursuing his vocation with passion. However, knowing our home life reality, I couldn&#039;t help but think, &quot;behind every strong man is an even stronger woman!&quot; With you, Kathy, I know a different reality; my husband is my strongest supporter. I&#039;m not in Ch 8 yet, but I&#039;m grateful to have a real partner.

I also love that you were invited and said yes. After an amazing 17 years of training, I am grateful to be starting my first &quot;real&quot; job. It is scary. I have to trust that the process that helped me to get to this point (read, the support of many friends), will help me through all the transitions to come. I don&#039;t feel ready, and yet today I was encouraged to consider whether we should submit a major project related to HHS&#039;s $1 billion effort to improve health outcomes as part of the Affordable Care Act. My training doesn&#039;t seem sufficient... it&#039;s so hard to silence doubt.

What have others said &quot;yes&quot; to?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So please ask yourself: What would I do if I weren’t afraid? And then go do it.&#8221; (p. 26). I love that you are going to D.C. and sitting at the table. </p>
<p>Growing up, I saw a lot of strong male professionals, including my dad who I love and respect for pursuing his vocation with passion. However, knowing our home life reality, I couldn&#8217;t help but think, &#8220;behind every strong man is an even stronger woman!&#8221; With you, Kathy, I know a different reality; my husband is my strongest supporter. I&#8217;m not in Ch 8 yet, but I&#8217;m grateful to have a real partner.</p>
<p>I also love that you were invited and said yes. After an amazing 17 years of training, I am grateful to be starting my first &#8220;real&#8221; job. It is scary. I have to trust that the process that helped me to get to this point (read, the support of many friends), will help me through all the transitions to come. I don&#8217;t feel ready, and yet today I was encouraged to consider whether we should submit a major project related to HHS&#8217;s $1 billion effort to improve health outcomes as part of the Affordable Care Act. My training doesn&#8217;t seem sufficient&#8230; it&#8217;s so hard to silence doubt.</p>
<p>What have others said &#8220;yes&#8221; to?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Leaning In Into the Unknown by deanneliu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deanneliu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you&#039;re amazing, Kathy! I&#039;m excited to hear what comes of this trip. Have a safe and affirming trip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re amazing, Kathy! I&#8217;m excited to hear what comes of this trip. Have a safe and affirming trip.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Lean In &amp; the Dirty &#8220;A&#8221; Word by Perks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 08:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[struggled with the same thing... I&#039;m learning to be okay with being ambitious beyond domestic setting in a good christian woman perspective haha. I haven&#039;t stlll quite figured that out how that looks like. But.. it&#039;s really part of who I am. It&#039;s not selfish ambition... I am ambitious because I want to inspire.. and live for others... somehow make a change in the world I live in.
but thanks for the share! Christian women can relate to this sooo much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>struggled with the same thing&#8230; I&#8217;m learning to be okay with being ambitious beyond domestic setting in a good christian woman perspective haha. I haven&#8217;t stlll quite figured that out how that looks like. But.. it&#8217;s really part of who I am. It&#8217;s not selfish ambition&#8230; I am ambitious because I want to inspire.. and live for others&#8230; somehow make a change in the world I live in.<br />
but thanks for the share! Christian women can relate to this sooo much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Lean In &amp; the Dilemma of Self-promoting by Lisa Liou</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Liou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 02:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments, Hillary.  It is a strong feeling and it&#039;s just really a representation of how much tension I sometimes feel as a minister and a woman who wants to lead.  In my perfect world (I think Sandberg talks about this), I would be given opportunity based on merit, deeds done, loyalty and potential demonstrated, etc.  I&#039;ve realized this is not the world I live in and so I have to find ways to navigate something that, yes, does from the get go feel like a betrayal of myself in order to find a place where I can simultaneously be myself and a leader.  Is there a way to do it with out betraying my core values?  I&#039;m banking on that, but the tension is there and it&#039;s slow moving through it.  

As for your comments about power, I agree.  I think Sandberg gave me something to latch on to though when she spoke about needing more women leaders to improve the opportunities for women.  Women need women with power to look out for them worldwide.  I think this is a kindgom and gospel oriented hope to latch on to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Hillary.  It is a strong feeling and it&#8217;s just really a representation of how much tension I sometimes feel as a minister and a woman who wants to lead.  In my perfect world (I think Sandberg talks about this), I would be given opportunity based on merit, deeds done, loyalty and potential demonstrated, etc.  I&#8217;ve realized this is not the world I live in and so I have to find ways to navigate something that, yes, does from the get go feel like a betrayal of myself in order to find a place where I can simultaneously be myself and a leader.  Is there a way to do it with out betraying my core values?  I&#8217;m banking on that, but the tension is there and it&#8217;s slow moving through it.  </p>
<p>As for your comments about power, I agree.  I think Sandberg gave me something to latch on to though when she spoke about needing more women leaders to improve the opportunities for women.  Women need women with power to look out for them worldwide.  I think this is a kindgom and gospel oriented hope to latch on to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Lean In &amp; the Dilemma of Self-promoting by Hillary L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hillary L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 00:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, my first reaction is that those are strong feelings - the potential of needing to betray core values. I agree that hopefully we never have to sacrifice part of ourselves to be able to be ourselves; I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it. Your sentiment reminds me of the brokenness of all things. I am uncomfortable with Sandberg&#039;s use of the word power because so far she hasn&#039;t defined it well enough for me. Power for power sake is not my goal. However, I am hopeful there are tangible ways to be a good steward of my gifts, ambitions, all of who I am, including perhaps by better knowing &quot;We hold ourselves back in ways both big and small, by lacking self-confidence, by not raising our hands, and by pulling back when we should be leaning in. We internalize the negative messages we get throughout our lives— the messages that say it’s wrong to be outspoken, aggressive, more powerful than men,&quot; (pg 8) but in the light of the Gospel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, my first reaction is that those are strong feelings &#8211; the potential of needing to betray core values. I agree that hopefully we never have to sacrifice part of ourselves to be able to be ourselves; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it. Your sentiment reminds me of the brokenness of all things. I am uncomfortable with Sandberg&#8217;s use of the word power because so far she hasn&#8217;t defined it well enough for me. Power for power sake is not my goal. However, I am hopeful there are tangible ways to be a good steward of my gifts, ambitions, all of who I am, including perhaps by better knowing &#8220;We hold ourselves back in ways both big and small, by lacking self-confidence, by not raising our hands, and by pulling back when we should be leaning in. We internalize the negative messages we get throughout our lives— the messages that say it’s wrong to be outspoken, aggressive, more powerful than men,&#8221; (pg 8) but in the light of the Gospel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Lean In &amp; the Dirty &#8220;A&#8221; Word by Hillary L</title>
		<link>http://morethanservingtea.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/book-club-lean-in-the-dirty-a-word/#comment-1902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hillary L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 23:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your posts, Kathy. I&#039;m enjoying them. Thanks for creating a safe space to discuss. 

With Ms. Sandberg, I&#039;m grateful for the opportunities I&#039;ve had to get to where I am vocationally, and with you, I recognize my place as one of tremendous privilege. In my best moments of humility (a right understanding of myself in my situation - gifts/experiences/weaknesses, etc), stepping forward/following through/leaning in has not felt ambitious but rather simply the right thing to do. And I can tell because it has felt like striving after right things, and not the wind. 

Thus, I am ambitious (I have goals, mentors, a 3-5 year plan), but I hope those things always fit within a &quot;thy Kingdom come, thy will be done&quot; framework. At least in the academe, prestige and power can easily become false gods for women and men. Ms. Sandberg has not convinced me to pursue actions that lead to moving us around the country, though I&#039;m only in Ch 3.

I expect that the people around me may not actually know what to think of me (ambitious or otherwise). My husband reminds me that I rarely talk about being a physician-researcher; naming my fields of palliative medicine and geriatrics are conversation stoppers without talking about research goals. I appreciate LL&#039;s comments above and Sandberg&#039;s quote: &quot;I was raised to believe that girls could do anything boys could do and that all career paths were open to me.&quot; p. 14 - because while this was absolutely my upbringing and a core belief, it&#039;s a different message than what I hear from my church, an imperfect place that I choose to be and serve for different reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your posts, Kathy. I&#8217;m enjoying them. Thanks for creating a safe space to discuss. </p>
<p>With Ms. Sandberg, I&#8217;m grateful for the opportunities I&#8217;ve had to get to where I am vocationally, and with you, I recognize my place as one of tremendous privilege. In my best moments of humility (a right understanding of myself in my situation &#8211; gifts/experiences/weaknesses, etc), stepping forward/following through/leaning in has not felt ambitious but rather simply the right thing to do. And I can tell because it has felt like striving after right things, and not the wind. </p>
<p>Thus, I am ambitious (I have goals, mentors, a 3-5 year plan), but I hope those things always fit within a &#8220;thy Kingdom come, thy will be done&#8221; framework. At least in the academe, prestige and power can easily become false gods for women and men. Ms. Sandberg has not convinced me to pursue actions that lead to moving us around the country, though I&#8217;m only in Ch 3.</p>
<p>I expect that the people around me may not actually know what to think of me (ambitious or otherwise). My husband reminds me that I rarely talk about being a physician-researcher; naming my fields of palliative medicine and geriatrics are conversation stoppers without talking about research goals. I appreciate LL&#8217;s comments above and Sandberg&#8217;s quote: &#8220;I was raised to believe that girls could do anything boys could do and that all career paths were open to me.&#8221; p. 14 &#8211; because while this was absolutely my upbringing and a core belief, it&#8217;s a different message than what I hear from my church, an imperfect place that I choose to be and serve for different reasons.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Lean In &amp; the Dirty &#8220;A&#8221; Word by LL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I struggle with this too, but I&#039;ve come to decide that it is okay to have ambition.  Maybe we need a new word because this A word is so tainted for us.

In my all girls high school, we had a framed cross stitch that said, &quot;Don&#039;t tell your daughter to marry a doctor or lawyer, tell her to be one.&quot;  I was 100% raised to lead and be ambitious.  It was the church and ministry that confused me on this point in my 20s, which is ridiculous because it came to a point where I thought, if I had any other job, I would not be satisfied with where I am.  It would be ridiculous for all the investment that my parents and my educators made in me to just settle because it was ministry and I felt the pressure to be content.  It&#039;s still a muddled mess for me, but I&#039;m becoming more comfortable with ambition and also with figuring out the language so that ambition is heard well.  Part of what made me crawl away from ambition at my job was the way certain people looked when they talked about it.  It was not attractive to me at all.  

Thanks for writing this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle with this too, but I&#8217;ve come to decide that it is okay to have ambition.  Maybe we need a new word because this A word is so tainted for us.</p>
<p>In my all girls high school, we had a framed cross stitch that said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t tell your daughter to marry a doctor or lawyer, tell her to be one.&#8221;  I was 100% raised to lead and be ambitious.  It was the church and ministry that confused me on this point in my 20s, which is ridiculous because it came to a point where I thought, if I had any other job, I would not be satisfied with where I am.  It would be ridiculous for all the investment that my parents and my educators made in me to just settle because it was ministry and I felt the pressure to be content.  It&#8217;s still a muddled mess for me, but I&#8217;m becoming more comfortable with ambition and also with figuring out the language so that ambition is heard well.  Part of what made me crawl away from ambition at my job was the way certain people looked when they talked about it.  It was not attractive to me at all.  </p>
<p>Thanks for writing this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Club: Lean In &amp; the Dilemma of Self-promoting by Lisa Liou</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Liou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I have constantly felt the tension of feeling that I might need to betray my values in order to make it.  It&#039;s especially sad because I think the value is Biblical - serving and giving up power, rather than seeking it.  I mean, that is huge motif between Jesus and his disciples, and...the cross.  

One should never have to betray oneself in order to gain the opportunity to be one&#039;s self, but that&#039;s exactly how it feels to me sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have constantly felt the tension of feeling that I might need to betray my values in order to make it.  It&#8217;s especially sad because I think the value is Biblical &#8211; serving and giving up power, rather than seeking it.  I mean, that is huge motif between Jesus and his disciples, and&#8230;the cross.  </p>
<p>One should never have to betray oneself in order to gain the opportunity to be one&#8217;s self, but that&#8217;s exactly how it feels to me sometimes.</p>
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